oh wow, thanks. i will try that. most times it is the last bullet but some times not. i did get an answer to my email from Trivantis support. i was told in the text box properties to mark the box that says "render as an image when published". i did that and it worked too...it did not increase my file size so i guess i can live with doing that. but i will be sure to try your method as well...i have lots more to do! thanks and take care.